Pullman sleepers

Tourist 16-section sleeper

A. Description: Pullman

B. Name/number: choose one: 4073-4097, 4142-4144, 4061, 4064-66, 4168, 4170, 4173, 4175, 4178-80, 4186, 4188, 4191, 4193, 4223-28

C. HO model: 16-section sleeper from Pullman pool (not specifically for Santa Fe) Plan 2412U (NKP Car Co. #?) — need to determine how different it is from a tourist 16-section sleeper (per Bob Drenk: tourist sleeper cars were the standard cars of the early years; 14 and 16 sections, no rooms and had only the heavy curtains for night time privacy. There were no solid bulkheads between sections; the daytime view was clear through the car body; these cars were built in the ‘teens, mostly; some in the early 20’s)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (NKP #? or from Walthers chair car), diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), seats and interior details, window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color)

E. Major references: Sleeping Cars of the Santa Fe, Flick et al, SFRH&MS; http://www.atsfrr.net/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm; Plan 2412 Mainline Modeler, June 1986.

In 2019, the following three models were completed.

All are based on Walthers heavyweight models, however, they needed to be modified to replace the Carrier-style air conditioning mechanisms with the Santa Fe style steam ejector air conditioning.

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For example, the top image shows an original underside, sans trucks and steps, while the bottom one shows the rearranged equipment as well as one scratchbuilt component. Very little prototype information could be located and, based on minimal photos of the sides of the cars, the equipment was added to provide a reasonable representation. Each of the cars is slightly different.

The rooftop AC parts are from the Walthers ATSF Chair car. For more information, see the modifications made to the observation/sleeper car model.

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All three Pullman cars received constant-brightness interior lighting by Voltscooter with some of the LEDs tinted. For more information, see the modifications made to the observation/sleeper car model (scroll down to the bottom of the linked post).

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Since the Walthers cars have a semi-gloss finish, the windows, roof and ends were masked off then sprayed with Testors #1201 Glosscote spray lacquer to provide a better surface for the car name decals (included in each of the Walthers kits). “WATCH YOUR STEP” decals made by Champ were added to the steps. After the decals were dry, another coat of clear gloss was sprayed on.

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As on the other cars built, dozens of Preiser and other brands of figures were painted. After cleaning off parting lines and flash they were sprayed flat black. When dry, they were brush painted from the body outward: flesh, hair, shirt, outer wear, shoes, accessories.

Standard 10-1-2 sleeper

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A. Description: Pullman Plan 3585 per Walthers model

B. Name/number: Lake Henry (Lake Bonaparte would have been more accurate but it wasn’t on the Walthers decal sheet)

C. HO model: Walthers 932-10551 (green w/black roof)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (Walthers Santa Fe chair car); diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color) — revise/delete underfloor A/C equipment depicting a different system

E. Major references: Sleeping Cars of the Santa Fe, Flick et al, SFRH&MS; http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm (cites other references); Mainline Modeler, March 1985 (Plan 2585D — probably is 3585D); photo of Lone Lake and others showing roof A/C, P. 156, Steel Rails Through California, Kistler.

 

Standard 12-1 sleeper

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A. Description: Pullman Plan 3410A per Walthers model

B. Name/number: Red Oak

C. HO model: Walthers 932-10001 (green w/black roof)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (Walthers Santa Fe chair car); diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color) — revise/delete underfloor A/C equipment depicting a different system

E. Major references: Sleeping Cars of the Santa Fe, Flick et al, SFRH&MS; http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm; “Modeling Pullman Heavyweight Sleepers,” Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, Vols. 1, 2; Mainline Modeler, May 1986 (Plan 3410).; also see Mainline Modeler, Jan./Feb. 1981 (Plan 3410)

 

9. Standard 8-1-2 sleeper

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A. Description: Pullman Plan 3979A per Walthers model (3979A was built for Chief as of 1937; by 1939 the Chief used lightweight cars so it’s plausible that at least one was then used on the California Limited)

B. Name/number: Centhill (Centrock would have been more accurate but it wasn’t on the Walthers decal sheet: Centrock was listed on a summer 1940 consist list for the California Limited, P. 28, 1st Qtr., Santa Fe Modeler).

C. HO model: Walthers 932-10051 (green w/black roof)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (Walthers Santa Fe chair car); diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color) — revise/delete underfloor A/C equipment depicting a different system

E. Major references: Sleeping Cars of the Santa Fe, Flick et al, SFRH&MS; http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm; Centwell, later MOW 194289, is at the Fillmore & Western Ry, Fillmore, CA; Centwell photo P. 80, Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, Vol. 3.

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7 responses to “Pullman sleepers

  1. Mario Naso

    To provide Steam Ejector A.C. details there is any other way that destroy a Walthers chair car? It appears to be an expensive way

  2. Charley2030

    Coach Yard made a brass kit for them many years ago but it is long out of production. It’s part No. 1015 but they are rare and cost more on the secondary market than the Walthers chair car. It’s made of really nice brass castings. NKP has some resin parts here: http://www.nkpcarco.com/underbody.htm However, it looks like they are only the underbody parts and for roads other than Santa Fe. Santa Fe steam ejector A/C is a pretty limited area of interest — there isn’t much out there for us modelers.

  3. Laurel

    Hi Charley: I’m doing research on a California Limited trip my grandfather took in 1928 and am trying to find the consist and which configuration of Pullman sleeper he was on. He kept a diary of the trip and said that the car name was ‘Mirage, that it was a ‘Canyon’ car, and they were in Drawing Room A. I’m creating a scrapbook for my family and have been having so much fun researching the train, the Harvey hotels (and the girls!), and the old stations. I’m not sure what all that means but if you can point me in a direction to find the info, I’d appreciate it!

    • charley2030

      Soon after Laurel posted this I corresponded with her via email. The closest consist I could provide was for 1932. I checked at the Western Archives of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society but couldn’t find any additional information.

  4. The Pullman Car Project’s list shows a ‘Mirage’ Plan 2585D 10-1-2, built 29-Aug-16. It appears to have received Pullman Mechanical Brine A/C in 1936, beyond Laurel’s timeframe.
    jbvb

  5. Thanks, James. I apologize for the delay in responding. Thanks for the information.

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