Pullman sleepers

Tourist 16-section sleeper

A. Description: Pullman

B. Name/number: choose one: 4073-4097, 4142-4144, 4061, 4064-66, 4168, 4170, 4173, 4175, 4178-80, 4186, 4188, 4191, 4193, 4223-28

C. HO model: 16-section sleeper from Pullman pool (not specifically for Santa Fe) Plan 2412U (NKP Car Co. #?) — need to determine how different it is from a tourist 16-section sleeper (per Bob Drenk: tourist sleeper cars were the standard cars of the early years; 14 and 16 sections, no rooms and had only the heavy curtains for night time privacy. There were no solid bulkheads between sections; the daytime view was clear through the car body; these cars were built in the ‘teens, mostly; some in the early 20’s)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (NKP #? or from Walthers chair car), diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), seats and interior details, window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color)

E. Major references: http://www.atsfrr.net/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm; Plan 2412 Mainline Modeler, June 1986

Standard 10-1-2 sleeper

A. Description: Pullman Plan 3585 per Walthers model

B. Name/number: choose one: Lake Bonaparte, Lake Kegonsa, Lake Martha, Lake Owen (all were 1937 assignments from Pullman)

C. HO model: Walthers 932-10551; Branchline Trains 5200 (undecorated) or 5299 (green w/black roof, unlettered)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (Walthers Santa Fe chair car); diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color)

E. Major references: http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm (cites other references); Mainline Modeler, March 1985 (Plan 2585D — probably is 3585D) ; photo of Lone Lake and others showing roof A/C, P. 156, Steel Rails Through California, Kistler.

 

Standard 12-1 sleeper

A. Description: Pullman Plan 3410A per Walthers model (however, plan 3410A was not made specifically for the Santa Fe)

B. Name/number: need to see which were likely to be assigned to the Calif. Ltd. and were Plan 3410A: Alpland, Aylsebury, Balzac, Bohemian, Bonsecour, Burland, Bushard, Chatsworth, Elveden, Fort Monroe, Holtenau, Hopatgong, Ilsesboro, Isolita, Jefferson, McConaughy, McConnico, McDowell, McKell, McMann, Milbank, Napanoch, Oakhill, Ondawa (shown on a 1932 Train 3 (westbound) consist), Orston, Parvin, Prometheus, Raritan, Sbago, Sundridge, Torbert, Vandor, Viento, Watanga, Yakima.

Plan 3410 — not 3410A: McPeek, McRaney (shown on a 1932 Train 3 (westbound) consist), McWade

Plan 3410 — not 3410A — but could be a Pullman pool car: McCallum, McCloskey

C. HO model: Walthers 932-10001; Branchline Trains 5300 (undecorated) or 5399 (green w/black roof, unlettered)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (Walthers Santa Fe chair car); diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color)

E. Major references: http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm; “Modeling Pullman Heavyweight Sleepers,” Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, Vols. 1, 2; Mainline Modeler, May 1986 (Plan 3410).

9. Standard 8-1-2 sleeper

A. Description: Pullman Plan 3979A per Walthers model (3979A was built for Chief as of 1937; by 1939 the Chief used lightweight cars so it’s plausible that at least one was then used on the California Limited)

B. Name/number: choose one: Centacre, Centcroft, Centdale, Centello, Centholm, Centlow, Centosa, Centrock, Centshire, Centwell

C. HO model: Walthers 932-10051; Branchline Trains 5000 (undecorated) or 5099 (green w/black roof, unlettered)

D. Details to be added to the model: steam-ejector A/C (Walthers Santa Fe chair car); diaphragms (Am. Ltd. #9200), window shades (LaserKit #382, buff); interior lighting: Voltscooter Electronics flicker-free constant brightness LEDs; decals (Champ “bronze gold” color)

E. Major references: http://www.atsfrr.com/resources/Page/HWTPsgr.htm; Centwell, later MOW 194289, is at the Fillmore & Western Ry, Fillmore, CA; Centwell photo P. 80, Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, Vol. 3.

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6 responses to “Pullman sleepers

  1. Mario Naso

    To provide Steam Ejector A.C. details there is any other way that destroy a Walthers chair car? It appears to be an expensive way

  2. Charley2030

    Coach Yard made a brass kit for them many years ago but it is long out of production. It’s part No. 1015 but they are rare and cost more on the secondary market than the Walthers chair car. It’s made of really nice brass castings. NKP has some resin parts here: http://www.nkpcarco.com/underbody.htm However, it looks like they are only the underbody parts and for roads other than Santa Fe. Santa Fe steam ejector A/C is a pretty limited area of interest — there isn’t much out there for us modelers.

  3. Laurel

    Hi Charley: I’m doing research on a California Limited trip my grandfather took in 1928 and am trying to find the consist and which configuration of Pullman sleeper he was on. He kept a diary of the trip and said that the car name was ‘Mirage, that it was a ‘Canyon’ car, and they were in Drawing Room A. I’m creating a scrapbook for my family and have been having so much fun researching the train, the Harvey hotels (and the girls!), and the old stations. I’m not sure what all that means but if you can point me in a direction to find the info, I’d appreciate it!

    • charley2030

      Soon after Laurel posted this I corresponded with her via email. The closest consist I could provide was for 1932. I checked at the Western Archives of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society but couldn’t find any additional information.

  4. The Pullman Car Project’s list shows a ‘Mirage’ Plan 2585D 10-1-2, built 29-Aug-16. It appears to have received Pullman Mechanical Brine A/C in 1936, beyond Laurel’s timeframe.
    jbvb

  5. Thanks, James. I apologize for the delay in responding. Thanks for the information.

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